{"id":41,"date":"2012-02-07T00:47:39","date_gmt":"2012-02-07T00:47:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.oregonstate.edu\/modifiedketogenicdietforepilepsy\/?p=41"},"modified":"2012-02-07T00:47:39","modified_gmt":"2012-02-07T00:47:39","slug":"nora-update-december-1-2011","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dev.blogs.oregonstate.edu\/oregonketokids\/2012\/02\/07\/nora-update-december-1-2011\/","title":{"rendered":"Nora Update: December 1, 2011"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>[This post is a reproduction of an email I sent to family and friends on December 1, 2011. For previous history, see <a title=\"Nora\u2019s Epilepsy Story\" href=\"http:\/\/blogs.oregonstate.edu\/oregonketokids\/noras-epilepsy-story\/\">Nora&#8217;s Epilepsy Story<\/a> and previous posts tagged Nora&#8217;s History.]<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Hello from home,<\/p>\n<p>We spent one night at Doernbecher Children&#8217;s Hospital in Portland for Nora&#8217;s  intensive testing. They hooked her up to an EEG for 24 hours with video  monitoring (and apparently audio monitoring too, although we learned  that after the fact. I don&#8217;t think I insulted the docs, I hope.) I think  we got all of the glue out of her hair tonight. Ug. In addition, they  did one massive blood draw for metabolic and genetic testing.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_43\" style=\"width: 235px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.oregonstate.edu\/oregonketokids\/files\/2012\/02\/IMG_3023.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-43\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-43\" src=\"http:\/\/blogs.oregonstate.edu\/oregonketokids\/files\/2012\/02\/IMG_3023-225x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"225\" height=\"300\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-43\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Wired for motion: The EEG wires go throw the cloth sleeve, into the backpack, then out with 1 cord to the computer.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>The very good news is that her background brainwaves still look very  normal. This means that it is highly unlikely that she has any of the  terrible progressive myoclonic disorders. They caught lots of the  myoclonic jerks that we reported and saw some other suspicious events  too that will require more analysis, but on first glance the doctor just  told us that they saw these suspected seizures that don&#8217;t result in a  full jerk. In a week or so we will get a report about her full seizure  burden.<\/p>\n<p>Her initial blood work was great. All normal on blood chemistry,  minerals, cholesterol, etc. She seems completely healthy and fit. We are  awaiting more results on some vitamins and the genetic tests.<\/p>\n<p>I  feel very positive about the analysis that we got from the doctors. We  had our regular doctor, who is head of the department, and a new  epileptologist who is an expert on the ketogenic diet. Several  residents, and one in particular, spent time with us, along with the  dietician. The thing I appreciated most is that we could have  conversations as a problem solving team. Everyone is very impressed with  Ted&#8217;s graphs. His reputation preceded him. : ) One poor resident kept  saying &#8220;I want to see your graphs&#8221; but was swept along on rounds didn&#8217;t  get back to our room before we left.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_42\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.oregonstate.edu\/oregonketokids\/files\/2012\/02\/IMG_3021.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-42\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-42\" src=\"http:\/\/blogs.oregonstate.edu\/oregonketokids\/files\/2012\/02\/IMG_3021-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-42\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Nora with her &quot;bunny ears&quot; for her 24 hour EEG.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>The current thinking is that Nora has a  benign myoclonic epilepsy. The epileptologist said that about 1\/3 of his  patients with myoclonic seizures do not respond to these first-line  drugs, and about 1\/2 of those will respond to the ketogenic diet. That&#8217;s  the thing that you don&#8217;t get when you google this stuff. There are  plenty of people with myoclonic seizures that live with it successfully,  or that grow out of it. He actually thought that NOT finding out the  cause was a good sign. We know the cause of the terrible progressive  stuff because it&#8217;s terrible. If we can&#8217;t pinpoint the cause now  (although in the future we may understand more), it is more likely to be  benign. Although it is a bit of an article of faith, I appreciate the  perspective of someone who has treated similar patients with success.<\/p>\n<p>Our next course of treatment needs to continue to balance present  quality of life with future possibility of becoming seizure free. At the  moment, she has very good quality of life when she is having less than  10 small seizures a day (it seems that more than that or big ones make  her irritable, understandably). They were all very quick to point out  that she is very high functioning and ahead developmentally, so it is  not impacting her in a major way. Our doctor commented that he is not  afraid that each seizure is &#8220;frying&#8221; her brain. So any treatment  decision should maintain current quality of life.<\/p>\n<p>On to the future. As a benign epilepsy, she has a chance to grow out  of it. She also has a chance to continue with it for her life, although  life can still be very good. To give her the best chances of outgrowing  it, the rule is thumb is &#8220;2 years seizure free.&#8221; So if we can find a  way to control her seizures, we can re-train her brain to stop firing on  those pathways. It doesn&#8217;t matter how we control it, as long as  seizures stop. And the sooner, the better.<\/p>\n<p>We now know that 2 drugs have not worked (although they have a third  good drug that could be tried, or they could totally dope her up, which  would kill seizures and quality of life in one fell swoop. No way.)  That doesn&#8217;t mean that her epilepsy is terrible, it just means that the  mechanism is not the same as that of the drugs. The next step then will  be a diet approach, rather than going for the next drug. There are 3  main diets, increasing in severity, that we can try. We&#8217;ve been dabbling  in the low glycemic index diet, but we learned that we are not quite  there on most days so far, even though it is the least restrictive,  allowing 40-60 grams of carbs per day. We can start hitting that right  away. In the next few weeks, we will move toward the more restrictive  Modified Atkins Diet (MAD, great acronym on many levels, I&#8217;m sure). At  first, we have to restrict her to less than 10 grams of carbohydrates.  That is less than 1 slice of bread. Yikes. Half of her total calories  come from fat. Double yikes. Bring on the butter, bacon and cream. I&#8217;m  not joking. If it is working, we can try letting her have 20 grams of  carbs. Joy, a whole piece of bread in 1 day!<\/p>\n<p>If that doesn&#8217;t quite do the trick, we can try the ketogenic diet.  It&#8217;s incredibly restrictive. Every meal has to be 80% fat; 8 grams of  carbs are allowed all day. We would get a gram scale that can measure to  0.1 gram. It requires hospitalization to begin the diet. It will impact  our quality of life. It is intimidating. The keto doctor felt that we  should just go for it after all of the tests are back, if she is still  the same, but the other doctors and dietician stressed the quality of  life issue, especially with a kid who can express preferences (to put it  mildly). The less-restrictive diets do work well for some people, so we  will do the ease-in approach and try to strike a balance, while  maintaining her current medication (Depakote).<\/p>\n<p>It will take weeks to a month for the rest of the metabolic testing  and genetic tests. In particular, they are looking for chromosome  deletions that will provide clues to her seizure mechanism, and test for  1 particular mutation associated with myoclonic epilepsy (the SCN1A  gene, a sodium channel, for those with more detailed knowledge). They  are not looking at all known mutations at this point because she does  not have any other symptoms.<\/p>\n<p>Nora has really been amazing with all of  this. She just rolls with everything, not that she doesn&#8217;t let us know  how she is feeling, but she is fast to bounce back and carry on. We  tried watching Mary Poppins, which was a bit of a surprise hit after she  declared it &#8220;double boring&#8221; in the first 10 minutes, but the dance  scene with the penguins had her belly laughing. Any chance to see her  smile and hear her laugh rejuvenates me. Honestly, not just in a  schlocky parent greeting card kind of way. Not much is going to keep her  down, which helps me to not get down too.<\/p>\n<p>Ted and I have been a problem solving team. I enjoy the banter with  the doctors, and Ted&#8217;s research pays off in detailed questions that make  them articulate their thoughts. He is doing a lot better with the  emotional side, but it is still a struggle when Nora  is burdened by this. Time, understanding and candid conversations with  the doctors seem to help. Seeing them really is good medicine, because  we do not feel so alone in trying to figure this out. However, the data  keeping continues.<\/p>\n<p>I suppose that this will be the last mass update  unless and until we hear something specific on the rest of the testing.  This email is so long, so thanks for listening and continuing to cheer  us on. It helps.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[This post is a reproduction of an email I sent to family and friends on December 1, 2011. For previous history, see Nora&#8217;s Epilepsy Story and previous posts tagged Nora&#8217;s History.] Hello from home, We spent one night at Doernbecher &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/dev.blogs.oregonstate.edu\/oregonketokids\/2012\/02\/07\/nora-update-december-1-2011\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3322,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[107567],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-41","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-noras-history"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/dev.blogs.oregonstate.edu\/oregonketokids\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/dev.blogs.oregonstate.edu\/oregonketokids\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/dev.blogs.oregonstate.edu\/oregonketokids\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dev.blogs.oregonstate.edu\/oregonketokids\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3322"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dev.blogs.oregonstate.edu\/oregonketokids\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=41"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/dev.blogs.oregonstate.edu\/oregonketokids\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/dev.blogs.oregonstate.edu\/oregonketokids\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=41"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dev.blogs.oregonstate.edu\/oregonketokids\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=41"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dev.blogs.oregonstate.edu\/oregonketokids\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=41"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}